Many Ukip supporters may wonder how Ukip conducts itself in the European Parliament. Do they know, for example, that Farage is in alliance with MEPs whose desire it is to expand the EU and burden our taxpayers with the vast costs of widening the membership of the EU?
The answer may be discovered in the form of Ukip’s relationship with the EFD Group, of which Ukip forms the largest constituent part.
The EFD Group is a parliamentary party of MEPs, sufficient in size and encompassing MEPs from a wide enough range of member states to qualify for group status in the Parliament.
Ukip’s supposed raison d’etre is to secure the UK’s withdrawal from the European Union. Why, therefore, has Ukip’s egoistical leader, Nigel Farage, formed a Parliamentary Group of MEPs, many of whose Members wish to remain within the EU and some of whom wish to expand the borders and membership of the EU?
Incredible? Then read the motion and Parliamentary Amendments on ‘The outcome of the Vilnius summit and the future of the Eastern partnership in particular as regards Ukraine’.
How often have Ukip supporters heard their leader warn of the influx of immigrants from Bulgaria and Romania in 2014, when those countries’ citizens qualify for the right to work anywhere in the EU? How often has Nigel Farage drawn a comparison between the relatively low wages of these countries and the higher wages in the UK and, in particular, the attractive levels of UK benefits? Probably, hundreds of times over the airwaves of the BBC, given the preferential treatment state broadcasting appears to bestow upon him.
In the example beneath, Ukip’s EFD Group is calling for the accession of the Ukraine into the EU, which holds vast implications for the UK taxpayer, should this be achieved.
The Ukraine has a population almost twice as large as Bulgaria and Romania combined. Its per capita income is about half that of Romania and Bulgaria.
The EFD MEPS responsible are Tadeusz Cymański and Zbigniew Ziobro. Will Nigel Farage expel these MEPs from the EFD and others like them and, if necessary, dissolve the EFD as an organisation subversive to the interests of the UK?
The following verbatim amendments were moved by Members of the EFD Group on 12th Dec 2013
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Amendment 9
Tadeusz Cymański, Zbigniew Ziobro on behalf of the EFD Group
Joint motion for a resolution
PPE, S&D, ALDE, Verts/ALE, ECR, EFD
Outcome of the Vilnius Summit and the future of the Eastern Partnership, in particular as regards Ukraine.
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Paragraph 2
Joint motion for a resolution Amendment
2. Deplores the decision by the Ukrainian authorities, under the lead of President Yanukovych, to withdraw from signing the Association Agreement with the EU during the Eastern Partnership Summit in Vilnius, despite the clear will on the EU side to continue with the association process, provided the conditions are met; considers this decision to be a major missed opportunity in EU-Ukraine relations and for Ukraine’s aspirations; acknowledges Ukraine’s European aspirations, as expressed in the ongoing demonstrations by Ukrainian civil society in the Euromaidan in Kyiv and in other cities all over Ukraine, which did not hesitate to take its disapproval of President Yanukovych’s decision out onto the streets, and reiterates its view that a deepening of relations between the EU and Ukraine and the fact of offering Ukraine a roadmap for full EU membership are of great significance and in the interests of both parties;
Comment: This amendment on behalf of the EFD, calls for full Ukrainian membership of the EU, with vast implications for immigration and costs of membership.
ALSO SEE THESE AMENDMENTS
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Amendment 7
Tadeusz Cymański, Zbigniew Ziobro
on behalf of the EFD Group
Joint motion for a resolution
PPE, S&D, ALDE, Verts/ALE, ECR, EFD
Outcome of the Vilnius Summit and the future of the Eastern Partnership, in particular as regards Ukraine
Joint motion for a resolution
Recital F a (new)
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Whereas up to now the EU has not prepared any realistic policy towards Ukraine to bring it closer to the EU and help the country with its economic problems;
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Amendment 8
Tadeusz Cymański, Zbigniew Ziobro
on behalf of the EFD Group
Joint motion for a resolution
PPE, S&D, ALDE, Verts/ALE, ECR, EFD
Outcome of the Vilnius Summit and the future of the Eastern Partnership, in particular as regards Ukraine
Joint motion for a resolution
Recital G a (new)
Joint motion for a resolution Amendment
Whereas a visa-free regime should be implemented for Ukrainians travelling to the EU.
CONCLUSION: The primary purpose of Ukip is not to take the UK out of the EU. It is to fill a vacuum and prevent any other organisation of principle and conviction from doing so. Meanwhile, it will lead its supporters into a politically-correct dead end, wasting many more years in the process whilst, all the time, the demographic time bomb will continue to tick. In due course, it will not matter whether the UK is run from Brussels or Westminster and for the simple reason that those sitting in Westminster will no longer be British.
Fortunately, the EFD Amendments above were not passed. Presumably, even the fanatical Europhiles in the Parliament could not bring themselves to vote for EFD motions facilitating Ukrainian visa-free travel or the ‘roadmap for full EU membership’ of the Ukraine (the latter Amendment was supported by 8 members of the EFD). Had the motion narrowly succeeded, however, then Ukip members might have reflected that the EFD Group, which Farage leads, had succeeded in paving the way for the accession of the Ukraine into the EU and the vast related costs this would have imposed on the EU’s budget (paid by Member States), along with eventual cross border migration on an Himalayan scale. Farage, whose attendance in the Parliament is poor, did not even vote.
Notes:
The relevant links can be found here:
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http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sed/votingResults.do
See voting results for Thurs 12th Dec (pages 46, 54 and 56)
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http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=AMD&reference=P7-RC-2013-0557&secondRef=007-010&language=EN&format=PDF
See EFD Amendments
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See original motion – on the outcome of the Vilnius Summit and the future of
the Eastern Partnership, in particular as regards Ukraine – click on Word Document
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(Party Member) There is no doubt that Ukip run by Nigel Farage is totally insincere. It has been heavily supported by the likes of the BBC to undermine patriotic Nationalist feeling that is rising in this country.
However, the unholy alliance of liberalism and Marxism that control our media totally misjudged just how strong these feelings are with our people. Ukip have gone from strength to strength. The ‘genie is out of the bottle’ now and cannot be put back! We sincere Nationalists need a massive Ukip vote to ‘break the mould’ of British politics and break the habit of people voting Lib, Lab or Con. This would mean that the sincere members, supporters and voters would then have only a small step more to becoming British Democratic Party people.
Farage has said that we have a ‘duty’ to accept refugees from Syria. But why?
These people would not be refugees since they have already found refuge in places like Jordan and Turkey. Let these places look after them. If they came here after finding refuge, they would not be refugees but economic migrants.
If they want to migrate, they can go to Egypt or any of the Arab moslem countries where their co-religionists live. Why not Saudi Arabia or the Gulf States, among the richest places on earth for example?
We are told that this country is now the most crowded place in Europe, Bringing more people here who may be Moslem fanatics is just more self-destructive madness.
Unbelievably Farage is reported as saying that he wants Britain to open its borders to Syrian ‘refugees’! Is the man barking mad?
Too many voters have been taken in by UKIP’s leader, thinking he is the man who will save us all from the EU.
The question is how do we convince them otherwise?
As a fledgling party we need to do as much as possible to make the electorate aware of our existence, and also aware of our strong accusation that no other party is earnest about freeing Britain from the shackles of EU dictatorship allowing us to be a free and independent nation once again. We also need to demonstrate clearly that there is no other party in Britain today that is truly democratic. After all, democracy literally means ‘rule by the people’ not a small political elite who repeatedly ignore the wishes of the majority of the British public.
Democracy? Unfortunately, most of our people vote for the slickest sounding, best looking PR men, who promise them and their children total welfare, for free! (but only in the short-term).
We now have a growing tyranny desperately printing money and trying to force people to work for low wages. This fatally flawed system needs millions of expensive social workers and law enforcement officers, prisons, propaganda, a tame media, crushing taxation, and total spying on its own citizens, to survive.
Farage is tolerated as he won’t talk about incremental replacement of our people.
Like it or not Longshanks, the voters believe that they are living in a democracy. I agree this is a sham of democracy, which is what I am trying to point out as well.
There are a certain proportion of the unemployed who have no intention of ever working, I know, but the vast majority of people who can work do so and pay their taxes. These are the voters who we must convince that the democracy which they think they live in is simply a mirage created by slick PR, media propaganda, etc. That leaves us with one approach, which is to do our best to change the minds of the electorate and show them the truth, if they’ll accept it. This is a very difficult road, but we either try our best to do this or just give up right now and become another one of those snivelling excuses who repeatedly say: “It’s too late, we can’t change anything now”.
Geoff paints a rather negative picture of the position. The public know things are seriously wrong and that their views are ignored. That was not the case a few years ago.
In fact the big parties seem determined to rub their noses in it.
In the last few months Farage has gone on record saying that he won’t ban the wearing of the Islamist veil or stop mosque building and now his statement on Syria.
We all know what happens with so-called refugees in the past: Somalia, Nigeria, Kenya and Uganda. See Leicester or Bradford as an example of what happens when a country accepts refugees. Syrian refugees should go to one of the many Muslim majority countries out there.
These statements are like political gold dust and should be used to expose UKIP as a neo-liberal rather than patriotic party. As such this party needs a list of regional contacts so people can get involved!
UKIP is a Thatcherite party which embraces neo-liberal, globalist economics to an even higher degree than even the original Tory Party does. It is NOT the answer to Britain’s growing problems. Indeed, it if were in power our economic problems would probably worsen! Their economic approach is the reason why the vast majority of Labour voters (even those of the ‘old’ Labour and fairly patriotic persuasion) will NOT vote for them. This is the fundamental flaw of UKIP and our new party MUST expose them for it. If we can do this I’m sure more people would look in our direction.
People are only voting for UKIP at the moment as a protest vote against the others especially now that the Lib Dems have largely lost that previous role of theirs in British politics and because they see it as the only viable ‘patriotic’ alternative to the Lib/Lab/CON party. They are wrong to do so and the BDP must point out the huge flaws of UKIP.
Perhaps Farage’s game is to now start causing dissent, discontent and confusion in his party in order to cause a split, thus weakening the ‘Ukipsurge’ in next May’s polls. As has been done in the past to almost countless Nationalist movements.
He may be a cuckoo in the nest. He may be doing a deal with the ‘establishment’. He may also be too late.
What Mo is saying is interesting and could well be right. What sane politician would make such a gaff. one of a series recently, just months ahead of important elections? Some might think that he wants to wreck his party’s chances at the polls. Reminds me of another politician whose antics wrecked another party on the verge of breaking into the mainstream.
So now we know what UKIP stands for – unlimited Kurds, Iraqis and Pakistanis.
Strange, is it not, how Mr Farage has a problem with European immigration but not with that from the Third World? Stranger still how he runs a party that claims to be anti-EU but is entirely dependent on the continued existence of the said EU both for its existence and the bloated incomes of its MEPs. No wonder they don’t say too much these days about withdrawing from the EU. UKIP, just another bunch of money-grabbers I’m afraid.
I hope Farage continues to expose the reality of UKIP for those parts of the electorate who don’t really understand politics which, sadly, is the case with large numbers of people. Those of us who are politically astute always thought UKIP was the EU-phobic and Thatcherite part of the Conservative Party in exile.
Ukip members are reported to be furious, according to the latest Guardian report, about Farage’s demand to admit Syrian refugees. Even the Government takes a harder line than Farage on immigration! Ukip’s policy on this issue was always one of smoke and mirrors.
Perhaps Ukipers will now wake up and realise they have been taken for a ride. There is no difference between Ukip and the Lib/Lab/Con parties, except that Ukip has been billed to be politically-incorrect by clever marketing and the assistance of the BBC, which has set the party up as a safety valve. That apart, Ukip has a nominal anti-EU section to its policy but its raison d’etre on this point will cease after the 2017 referendum. As your article denotes, its principles on the EU have been thoroughly undermined by its alliance with expansionist pro-EU MEPs.
I am amazed that Nigel Farage has come out with this statement; this is a dangerous manoeuvre from the Leader of UKIP.
Just recently ‘Godfrey Bongo Bongo Bloom’ gave an interview saying he thought ‘Farage’ was still a Tory a heart and there was deep division in the ranks of UKIP.
There is madness to this, even the very nice middle-class toffee nosed Tories would object to a load of penniless Syrians coming hear. I believe Mr Farage is hell bent on trying to convince the mass media and the hard Left he and his Party are non-racist. It will not wash in the eyes of the Liberal elite or the Electorate. Members of UKIP are repeatedly exposed for being not politically correct as former NF members etc etc.
What the ‘Farage’ does not understand, (maybe he does) is that the backbone of the UKIP vote is not just an anti-European Union vote it’s a vote against multiculturalism and it’s a vote against mass immigration.
UKIP had a chance to blow the Conservative Party to smithereens. Perhaps that was the last thing Mr Farage wanted to do.
Let us hope the New Year brings the BDP forward. I feel we need a major financial contributor or a lottery winner for our concrete arguments to be heard.
Large sums of money wreck parties like ours. There is a history of it.
Ordinary members see no point in active participation since the big money has taken over. People start paying themselves salaries and keeping them becomes the main business.
Far better with lots of not rich people paying in their subs and more if they can afford it.
You don’t in fact need huge sums to do politics – unless you are approaching being a government. Demands for lotsa money ‘for the cause’ are often really for the benefit of the applicant – as quite a few have discovered in recent years.
If you agree with our party then send us a donation or join us Mr Public. Stamps are not that dear on top of your contribution.
It all sounds very organic Mike and I do understand where your coming from. The truth is we do not have time to build a ‘party’ over a long period. One ghastly long episode of a former applicant does not mean it is going to repeat itself.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10546394/Europe-is-slowly-strangling-the-life-out-of-national-democracy.html
Someone has cottoned on at last!
UKIP Members must be told the Truth about Nigel Farage and UKIP.
Every newspaper should print out the truth, the BBC has let us down, they are not British anymore!!!
Sam