By Southwest Nationalist. Who can have missed the video doing the rounds, and the “Transport police make arrest after tram passenger ‘hurls vile abuse at onlookers in racist rant as toddler perches on her knee”- type headlines.
Now, don’t we have to “empathise” with, for example, those angry black men or angry Muslims, and engage them in dialogue and try to understand where they are coming from?
Government and establishment have fed us that rubbish for years, and unless the same is applied here then it’s a clear case of racial discrimination.
So, let’s empathise – doesn’t mean we have to agree with what was said, but let’s try to understand.
We’ve watched our Britain become 500 different nations. We already see the mosques, and the conditioning of our children to accept their replacement.
We look around Britain in some places and we see Africa or Pakistan, we don’t see England.
We’re colonised and marginalised people in our own land, watching as it all unfolds and gets even worse.
Would any nonwhite, non Christian nation roll over and accept this?
Good luck explaining to any African (no need to even say what would happen in eastern/Islamic nations) why they have to accept several million whites suddenly turning up and demanding that they change their national laws to reflect the newly arrived white wishes.
What we see in the film is anger—understandable, but misdirected.
A bitter truth of all this—this mass flood of immigrants is a symptom, not a cause.
Millions of foreigners didn’t wake up one day and decide to colonise Britain.
Instead, Britain made it easy for millions of foreigners to decide that they’d have a better life here—and made sure that they did.
The average Brit in many areas is left as a stranger in their own land, anger is understandable. Nobody told us that when we welcomed outsiders we’d end up as outsiders in our own nation.
Anger is perfectly easy to understand, even if in this case it is misplaced.
Ranting at immigrants, the tidal wave of foreigners who swamp us, is pointless.
They didn’t make this, they didn’t leave us as a dying populace, outcasts in our own nation.
Our politicians did that — we did it to ourselves.
Even blaming the politicians is a cop out, we voted for them. We still vote for the same old crowd, we just curse and mutter about them afterwards, then open a beer over Coronation Street, and forget our anger.
You know where the blame lies? With all of us.
We can go postal on a train and it will grab headlines — it wouldn’t if it was an immigrant ranting about how this is their Britain of course — but it will change nothing.
So many of us feel that anger, we need to harness that — against the right targets.
Making a few colonisers feel uncomfortable is pointless, and changes nothing — they didn’t do this, we can see the suits who did standing up and claiming they represent Britain on TV every day.
Masses of immigrants grab for their piece of the pie, and who can blame them. Those leading Britain told them that the pie was here, ‘come help yourselves,’ and made sure that they have every advantage to getting a bigger slice.
That same establishment made sure we indigenous got an ever smaller slice of the pie.
Isn’t it easy to understand where this woman’s anger came from?
It might be misdirected, but, as the state always tells us to do with minorities, we can empathise.
Fact is though, shouting at the colonisers is pointless, it isn’t they who created our colonisation.
That rage needs to be reserved for the politicians, for Lib/Lab/Con, for ourselves every time we get a chance to cast our vote at the ballot box and dither over the old parties who we already know have betrayed us to a colonised future.
Politicians made this, and we let them. Are we going to continue making the same mistake, and keep on screaming our frustration to a train full of colonisers and passengers who do not care?
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Great piece, SWN! You say exactly what so many will be thinking, seeing this story on the internet. It is the three system parties and their apparatchiks who have created the ghastly society which drove this woman to her despairing rant. They, not she, are truly guilty.
There are huge areas of England, which are Muslim, black, where white people dare not walk through.
Why are these area’s 100 percent foreign?
Where have the white people gone?
Why has multi-culturism failed in these areas and why is this never mentioned in the media?
Maybe the BNP should find some volunteer members to walk through these areas with undercover camera’s to document the daily abuse that white people suffer. It is time to show the country what is really happening.
The country don’t care , they are all in ‘ flight ‘ mode. It’s sad to admit this but we can’t make the situation better for our people by discussing it. We have gone way past that point. There’s only one solution that holds the island.
I’ve often got into a tube train in Central London and noticed that I was the only white present and felt desperately sad at the foreign takeover of my country. Unlike that half-cut woman I have not so far burst out in anger. Perhaps I will one day.
I’ve also thought like the foul -mouthed lady in question that nowadays the native British are ‘nothing’.
This is what our ‘representatives’ have done to us and our country. So why do people keep on voting for people who quite clearly despise them?
It can only be because our democracy is a sham and the parties are monopolies who vie with each other to dole out benefits to single mothers like that woman probably is in order to buy their votes.
I bet that woman votes New Labour, the party mostly responsible for the victimisation of the native British people, if she votes at all, which I doubt.
..and of course things like this – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060538/Incapacity-benefits-Paralysed-Mohamed-Bouzalim-pictured-dancing-claiming-400k.html are to be forgotten.
What is the worse crime? Expressing your opinion in regards to how your country is being changed without your consent? Or stealing money from the State?
A terrible time awaits us I fear..
All this woman is saying, albeit in a less than eloquent manner, is that Britain is being overrun by the Third World and all these immigrants should go back to where they came from.
Someone show me one thing wrong with that.
I saw this video over the weekend, and to be honest I sat watching in despair – not just at the state of the nation, but how this woman was crudely effing and jeffing in front of little children and mouthing off in a very unhelpful way, a way in which it would probably be used to great effect by our opposition. Hardly a good advertisement, I thought.
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It reminds me of a similar one which was doing the rounds about two or three months ago – anyone remember that? In fact, it could even be the same woman!! It probably is. If it is her, is it possible that she is doing this and helping make these ‘spontaneous’ videos for the purposes of propaganda and a tool to reinforce the stereotypes and reinforce the whole ‘racism’ industry?
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I suppose I am too distrusting. She is certainly ‘brave’ to be coming out with all that in a carriage where she is in the ethnic minority. You would expect to get beaten to a pulp, woman or not. I will have to take her as being genuine and just ‘flipping her lid’ as she finds herself a minority in her own country.
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In the video, it can also be noted that another black youth who is sat behind her has to be comforted and calmed down by his (white) girlfriend before he takes some kind of stand, and that another woman who is black, starts on the whole “we come here because you are not prepared to work” rubbish. It seems the old thing of “telling a lie often enough” seems to be ingrained in our society.
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I am glad this article points out the futility of her actions and how the focus of blame is mis-placed. I have met people a bit like her before, who are exasperated and do not know enough about what is going on or how to cope/think about it properly – so they come out with crude ‘racism’ and swear and rant.
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The article is right, we have to direct this energy towards the right things. Ideally, I think we need to capture these kinds of people before they ‘lose the plot’ and become loose cannons. I think I would be horrified if she was stood behind a BNP stall and coming out with the kinds of things she was in the video! – but if we were reaching these people sooner and taking them on the correct routes of behaviour and understanding, then I would be prepared to lend them more of my support.
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I know I should not be so dismissive and “snobby”- but although I can empathise with the woman, it really is the worst kind of advertisement of what people in the wider public believe us nationalists to be like as a default…..ie, us being a party for people doing things like that, with no depth to our case at all.
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I know that if I were in her shoes, in London, in such a carriage, I would not be able to stand it either though. I doubt I would mouth-off though! I value my life!. I could not think of anything which would entice me to go to London now. The very idea of it makes me feel a bit queasy. My small town is 30% Asian and is bad enough in places, but with London, I suspect it is even worse.
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It is the ‘thought’ of what it represents and what is “coming” in the future that cuts me the most, not the individuals themselves. It is a sign of what is eventually going to happen all over the land, and I cannot bear it for that reason.
I very much doubt if the rest of the country think the lady on the tram is a nationalist.
I think what she said was pretty harmless, she should perhaps be given a medal for
her courage.
This Lady has had the courage to speak the truth. Well done to her she is very brave.
Excellent article, sums up exactly what alot of us think. This woman is less than eloquent it is true, and I disagree with her vulgar choice of language, but how can one not empathise with her outburst. What she says is 100% correct. However her’s, and all of our outrage and train of fire should be trained on the puppet politicians LibLabCon and their banking masters, it is this vermin which is responsible for our colonised county, and this woman’s along with millions of other Briton’s frustrations and anger.
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It is a very succinct point the author makes regarding ‘racial discrimination’ we have indeed been told to try to ‘understand’ and ’empathise’ with black and Muslim thugs, so that empathy should apply in this woman’s case too. In my view there was nothing wrong with what she said, however the manner in which she said it, especially with her child there was wrong.
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Time for our fightback!
Let her fate be a warning to all who do not want their own British folk destroyed and to be turned into foreigners.
You will submit!
The point is not to play into the hands of the system by ranting. It’s what they want you to do.
Had a great discussion with Mike Graham on talksport about this(check tues. morn 1.30am). Essentially this woman has nothing to apologise for- its her country & she doesn’t have to justify that to anybody. What pluck! She doesn’t vote new lab., she’s BNP!
I thought you stated your case very well Paul, in between the many interruptions from the host.
The British people have been been silenced on the issue of immigration for decades by the devastating but effective mechanism of being called ‘racist’, and in recent years that’s been reinforced by vicious legislation that this lady is almost certainly now going to face. I have mixed feelings about her outburst – one of distaste at the language but then admiration of her courage to say what she said where she said it. The Croydon tram system has a pretty terrible reputation for criminal, uncouth and violent behaviour, so she was lucky she wasn’t lynched!
She didn’t appear to be drunk so one must assume that she must have just suddenly snapped. Perhaps she just looked around at her fellow passengers and it just dawned on her that she was now a tiny minority in her own area and just snapped. However I think it is also the response of someone who, like the rest of the British people, have been kept in a pressure cooker of silence for years, from which the lid suddenly flew off. As our economy declines still further, as unemployment (especially youth unemployment) get worse, when the unemployment benefits dry up because our Government has to start having to pay an unsustainable 7%+ to borrow money, as 38-year-olds+ can’t afford a home to live in, then I think we are going to see a lot more of this sort of outburst. And despite the draconian anti-free speech laws I believe it will be unstoppable. God help us when that happens.
Just found a link to your spot on talksport
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/listen-again/episode/59556
You stood your ground very well. Well done!
We all know the problem, but unfortunately we are sitting on our bums waiting for Griifn to die of old age.
The words ‘rage’ and ‘anger’ come to my mind – just waht was simmering in this lady’s head and buried in her subconscious for so long to make such an emotive outburst?
As a warning to the political class, these sentiments are silently shared by hundreds of thousands up and down the country.They are exactly the same sentiments that led to war in Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Chechnya and many other places besides.
If you are a member of the political class lurking here, be afraid, very, very afraid of the monster that you have engendered.Don’t say that we tried to warn you at every possible occasion.All you tried to do was to kill the messenger.
She basically blew a fuse. I don`t agree with her swearing as it weaken`s her underlying frustration of what is happening to our dear land. Gov`t, Searchlight and the looney left will use this a vile attack on good honest people in their eyes and use the usual spin. Basically what she said was what most REAL BRITISH think, but are scared to say in public. I expect the court will throw the book at her as an example of their propaganda jack boots. However, what she said is now in the open for all Brits to see and hear. May be nationalists should start a fund to pay her cout fine.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Of course everyone wants to vilify ‘racists’ so they can feel good about themselves, on the other hand to say nothing is tantamount to being complicit in genocide. This woman only spoke what many white Britons think; if more people spoke their minds about unwanted demographic changes, they wouldn’t be able to arrest everyone.
As things stand you should to set up a fund to assist her in payment of fines etc.
It is quite understandable that folk get very frustrated, at times, by what has been imposed on our homeland by the boffins who so misrun and misrule us; but it is wrong to take it out on the micro-nations now living cheeck by jowell with us.
The better thing to do is to get active, involved and organised (and vocal) in a befitting way by joining, funding and standing for a decent democratic, liberal (in the true sense of the word) and nationist party; one that will support our heritage: culturally, ethnically and religiously.
This is what Medinat Israel is all about; and we should follow their fine precedent on that line.
Soviet Britain – She is a psychiatric prisoner
http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/9390767.Woman_appears_in_court_following_racist_rant_on_Croydon_Tram/
A woman has appeared in court following an alleged racist rant on a Croydon Tram.
Emma West, 34, of Grenville Crescent, New Addington, was charged with committing a racially aggravated public order offence.
Miss West, wearing a white and pink Addidas tracksuit top and jeans, spoke only to confirm her name and address at Croydon Magistrates Court this morning.
The court heard Miss West was arrested yesterday after a video was broadcast on YouTube, which showed a woman travelling on a tram between Croydon and Wimbledon making racists comments to other passengers.
The video has attracted a huge amount of attention worldwide and received more than 2.2 million hits in 24-hours.
Miss West was remanded in custody for a week pending psychiatric reports.
She is due to reappear in court on Tuesday December 6.
Many of us are now reaching boiling point, the gov’ment know this and are desperate to keep the pressure on by placing an ever heavier lid on society.
One day it will blow and the heavier the lid the bigger the ‘explosion’.
One thing I learned as a councillor of 18 years, nothingb happens without someone making it happen, so if we are in a mess, think back over the years and consider why, what decisions caused it, who were they made by, and why? what was the aim
Then believe THINGS DO NOT HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS
New, different and better decisions CAN be made, we can change for the better, we can return to Christian values and moral decency
BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN
I hadn’t even pulled out of my drive this morning and two of the lead stories on my radio were this non story and the John Terry non story.
It is another pincer attack on British white people, anti racism is the new religion, even perhaps the new God we must adhere to. It is has become an obsession of the liberal ruling classes, we don’t have physical Gulags in Britain ( yet!) we have Gulags of the mind, freedom of thought is now not an option in Britain. I am sure many millions actually thought she was rather brave saying as she thought. I did.
Is it racist to point out that all the passengers on the tube weren’t English? I thought it was a statement of fact.
Is it racist to wish them to go back from whence they came?
Racism in Britain today is to acknowledge and speak about the existence of non whites in any other way other than absolute praise and God like devotion.
I have read today that the woman in question is going to be seen by a psychiatrist – next stop Broadmoor for an indefinite period! I suppose that these Muslim Clerics who preach hatred in the U.K. and burn poppies, are also sent to a psychiatrist for reports?
Will Mossop says:
“As things stand you should to set up a fund to assist her in payment of fines etc”.
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I’m afraid it’s probably more serious than that. Contrary to a thousand years of English law, the Race Amendment Act 2000 says that anyone accused of a racial motivated act is deemed guilty until they can prove themselves innocent – something it is often very difficult to do. Punishment for those found guilty can be either a heavy fine or imprisonment for up to a vicious 7 years. For white people caught by this wicked law, imprisonment is often what they get, however I have yet to hear of any ethnic minority to get anything other than a small fine – though I’m happy to be corrected on that if anyone has evidence to the contrary.
I feel sorry for this poor Emma. As I have travelled extensively throughout England, I know why she vented her frustrations. In that environmnet, it was a brave thing to do. – Swearing or no swearing.
However, another little point. If she was taken into custody for “her own protection”, this raises some ugly questions.
Like, ‘If the “multi culti” was so wonderful, then why would she need protection?’
And, ‘Just from whom does she need protection?’
Also, ‘What happened to the concept of free speach?’
I love it! She’s off to see a psychiatrist! Soon be on junk & turned into a zombie. Meanwhile the real madmen who run this land get on with the job of building their multicultural paradise until we look like Lebanon c.1976.
I’d just like to say ‘Well done’ for your efforts against that pervert Communist Mike Graham on Talksport. You managed to get some good points across under difficult circumstances before he wore you down through a mixture of interruption and haranguing to put you off your game, before finally cutting you off and giving that little soliloquy on how terrible what you said was and how we should all think differently. I’m afraid these guys are trained to do that to perfection against decent people. It was a hell of a lot better than Griffin on Question Time though! Again, nice one.
Emma’s is a cry for help and a rallying call for unity and action.
I have just watched this video and some of the responses. I have seen many people lose their tempers and swear on public transport. Even done it myself sometimes not that I am proud of it. What shocks people is that she was ranting about immigration! Depressing to see how this makes ordinary people make such a big thing out of this incident.
By the way, a few years ago I was living in Belgium and was frustrated with how I could see the original Belgians disappearing. I was unaware of the support for the BNP and that so many people felt the same way as me.
On one occasion, after a long journey and seeing so many black faces, one adopted third world child and one too many mixed race couples, I really lost my temper on the seafront in Ostend. I was chased, tripped over and was kicked on the ground at least 20 times, very hard, in the ribs and back by the man of African descent I had shouted at. Ignoring his white girlfriend’s pleas to stop he would have continued until I was dead if a passerby had not persuaded him to stop. I am not much of a fighter but a good survivor. I went to the hospital afterwards and was amazed that nothing was broken. I refused to report it to the police as I would be in trouble for racial abuse. I stopped going out after this experience.
I later consulted my GP who warned me never to do this sort of thing again. He wisely told me that could have had my head kicked and that would be very serious.
Your organization has really helped me to adopt a more rational and intelligent way to fight back. I tend to agree that there is no point in losing your temper and being abusive. We are no good on the floor with our skulls cracked. We will win by moderate language and self-restraint. The more I learn the more I realize that race replacement (which threatens Europe, N America and Australia) is far more serious than just us all becoming chocolate coloured. We must educate people little by little. The tide is turning.
Thanks for your support.
Interesting story M and I’m glad you survived the attack. I am always optimistic
like you. Where I slightly beg to differ is when you say the tide is turning. I think it may be turning slightly but I believe we will run out of time. Race replacement is certainly what
is staring us all in the face rather than all of us ending up coffee coloured. The real problem is denial and pure CBA [ couldn’t be arsed], as most of our own population have plenty of diversions to distract them from reality. In practice this whole dirty deed,
started basically by the traitor Blair and continued with gusto by his admirer the
backstabber Cameron, will be over before the sheeple wake up. The only possible
way is a revolution or coup or organised civil disorder on a grand scale.
What will happen now is the British Soviet-style justice system will try to force the desired result which is for her to abase herself in public. it is like a Soviet show trial with the media playing a big part. This week she will be cowed and intimidated by her lawyer, Psychiatrist and nurses into apologising. What will be the threat that turns her? It will be he threat to take her child into care. This time next week she will have apologised and be publicly grovelling to the enrichers as Jade Goody did.
I’ve seen packs of blacks robbing white people on buses (its one of the reasons they got rid of the route master buses) and various other places in London more than once and the whole bus will sit there quietly and say nothing. One time I intervened and then a couple of days later reported to the police to see if they needed a witness. It hadn’t even been reported and they had no record of it.
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Why do ‘liberals’ and immigrants prioritise words over physical wounds and violence?
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There is no mention of it when blacks stab, rob and rape each other or the whites they regard as easy prey, unwilling and scared to stand up for themselves.
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Why was the hatred which is directed at this woman (who appeared to be mentally ill or under the influence) not directed at the worst violent scum?
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South London is full of barking mad schitzophrenic rastafarian out patients shouting their mouths of in the streets about all kinds of mumbo jumbo. Its part of the vibrant cosmopolitan multiculti funky liberal vibe when its them doing it.
So get your “biritish” whitecollar s*um out of my country. All this bull sh*t banksters figuring out new ways to rob hard working people blind. Get out from Poland and never come back.
Regardless of the situation on the tram (and nobody knows what the poor woman had to endure BEFORE the camera was switched on) the fact that this English woman has been locked up , not on a complaint from anyone involved in the incident but because the British transport police took it to the police??? how utterly ridiculous and contrived. I and the BF team have been up most of the night putting together a ‘FREE EMMA WEST CAMPAIGN’ NOW! I would ask EVERYBODY to get stuck right into this one and to do what you can to ‘. Viral ‘ it OK, yes her behavior was unacceptable in front of kids , but we must ask ourselves , WHY? WHAT DROVE THIS WOMAN OVER THE EDGE! Emma lives in Croydon, she watched as the police allowed gangs of ethnics to burn her town to the ground, is it any bloody wonder she is seething with resentment and frustration? Emma west is a victim of the rotten system not a criminal. The elite may be smirking about being able to hammer a women, but this incident is the first whisper in an awakening that will soon be a deafening roar WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK…NOW! They may lock up and silence one lone working class English mother but soon they will have to deal with a million men who may well do more than use a few choice words! However in the meantime lets us concentrate in 1) Ensuring her safety while incarcerated. 2) Demanding her immediate release from prison. 3) An enquiry into why she was arrested when no complaint from the public existed at that stage, and an explanation for their actions from the transport police and the name of the transport official who took this to the police in the first place. Dear friends these are things we must do and quickly, can you imagine a young English mother being locked up on ‘race’ charges in a prison full of violent ethnic offenders? We must put all Party/ideological differences aside to ensure the safety of this woman and we must put our best efforts into making sure this matter is exposed for what it really is, we must act as one voice together NOW!. Watch this site and the BF site for details on how you can play your part in this emergency fight back.
The press likes to claim that nationalist parties are stirring up hatred.
The answer is that their objective is (or should be) to deter people from pointless actions like rants on buses which simply get them arrested and to organise politically.
If Britain were a democracy this would be welcomed. The reason it is not, of course, is precisely because the last thing the system wants is organised, reasoned opposition. What they want is publicised rants on buses, arrests, imprisonment and, even better, bogus psychiatric assessments which portray objectors to their own people’s destruction as mentally ill.
One wonders what the race will be of the psychiatric examiners of this poor victim of the nightmare of modern London who cracked under the pressure.
Not sure if anyone else mentioned this, lot of comments – but seems they’ve dug out another video elsewhere. “Rail ‘racist’ No2” screams the Sun headline, “A WOMAN has been caught hurling vile racist abuse on a train — in a SECOND sickening YouTube video.”
London to Manchester train this time.
Wonder if this is going to become a media trend, another way to scream about evil, racist whitey. Course, it’s never racist if the boot is on the other foot.
I noticed the young West Indian fellow behind Emma reached a point where he looked about to hit her when she came close to using the n word. The other customers fortunately restrained him.
There is no justification for physical violence in response to verbal abuse.
Although she was very verbally abusive she did not come across as physically threatening. She could hardly attack anyone with a child on her lap.
I really hope she is only punished for using bad language on public transport and not a host of other charges. I know the rules of behaviour are much stricter than they used to be on public transport but I am sure lots of kids and teenagers regularly get away with breaking the rules.
.Everything she said was true but the question is what gave her the courage to say it?
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There are 4 possible explanations for it:
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1/. That day she had had enough and made a rational decision to speak the truth (although with somewhat slurred speech and excessive swearing)
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2/. She is suffering from a mental illness (probably bipolar disorder, (manic depression).
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3/. She was under the influence (drugs/alcohol)
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4/. A combination of two or more of these explanations.
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I will put money on it that the answer will be number 2 and that at some point in the near future this will become apparent (unless patient confidentiality is upheld).
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If I am correct in my assumption the question is how best to help the woman and then how this case might be used to highlight certain inconsistencies in the approach taken by the media and the authorities towards vulnerable white people.
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The media/ YouTube and subsequently the public have crucified a vulnerable and unwell woman who is living in a hostile foreign environment where an elderly white gentleman was recently beaten to death by a gang of blacks during the race riots.
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Vulnerable ethnics are protected by a whole range of legislation and guidlines to ensure that services provided to them are ‘culturally sensitive/ responsive’. Everything from the staff who work with them to the food they are given and their religious/ spiritual needs is monitored and designed to fit them as best as possible. The same standards and duty of care should apply to us.
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My guess however is that she will be further humiliated by the predominantly black/ African mental health teams which there are in South London. The press has already published her name and address (have any guidelines been breached there?)
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Assuming that this woman made a rational decision to make her stand I think will transpire to be a mistake. What she said was correct, but she only said it (I think) because she is unwell. The target of any campaign should be to highlight the way in which a vulnerable white woman has been crucified by the media the public and the politicians who were looking to score a few quick ethnic votes.
I have now had chance to watch this video a couple of times, read some of the comments on youtube and look at some of the follow up video’s from other people.
This woman needs help. Unfortunately, she isn’t going to get it. She has just dug the most enormous hole for herself. She will end up with a big fine, she will end up doing community service in an ‘enriched’ area, she will end up having her child taken in to care, she will probably lose her house, and her job. I only hope the father of her child is with her to help her through – it’s her only hope. She will now be hunted down by black gangs and so called anti-fascists and be goaded and bullied until she snaps again.
I see Britain First want to ‘support’ her and get her released from prison. The support she needs is to be taken out of London. If she is released, then the best thing Britain First can do is to find her a safe house and someone to look after her for a while. Britain First needs to ensure she gets good legal representation, gets good advice and guidance and if she needs psychiatric help then she gets it.
My advice to BF is do not rise to the bait – don’t do a demo outside the prison. It will achieve nothing. Get inside the prison, get to see her and she what help she needs. Go about your business quietly and professionally and help her beat the system which will be out to destroy her. I fear BF will only achieve bad publicity out of backing this woman.
This poor women will now be massively distressed, even if she wasn’t before she lost the plot on the tram. I don’t think we can defend her foul mouthed standard of behaviour despite being sympathetic to the message. Her intoxicated, foul mouthed rant practically symbolises everything that has gone wrong with this country.
Her action, the reaction of other white people on the tram, the comments on youtube and response video’s are quite frankly, depressing. They illustrate the size of the task ahead – it simply reinforces my opinion that to turn round this country will take at least 50 years of hard slog.
Good advice Yorkie.
I really hope this woman is treated well. I know that anyone can start ranting on public transport after a few drinks, a frustrating day, a long wait and irritating people around you using their mobiles every 5 minutes.
Yes there should be laws to punish and caution people who are abusive in public but putting them in prison, and all over the media with their addresses, that is too much.
I hope BF efforts have a positive effect. I am very happy that I can do something to help.
Fifty years of hard slog? At which time it will be too late!
The fact that its not the immigrants fault is too simplistic an argument for me.
Yes Politicians have opened our borders too all and sundry and for that they are not without blame.
We have imported the worlds criminals, legally here or not, who are having a devastating impact on our once great country and society. I have seen many analogies put forward on various forums i.e. chickens and foxes to explain why its not the immigrants fault.
Are all these illegal immigrants entering our country blameless? Are all the immigrants who are ripping us off taking money out of a system that they never contributed to and committing all sorts of criminal acts blameless? Well I don’t think so.
Using an analogy. If you leave your door or window open and someone burgles your house, then according to the theory, its your fault and not the burglar. It’s the Vicars fault when thieves steal the lead off the church roof .
Of course the mendacious self-serving lot of past and present Governments should be blamed for the terrible state that this once great country finds itself in. However, blame can equally be apportioned to certain sections of the immigrant populace and on that premise I will not move.
The burglars analogy is slightly wrong.
To make it comparable, one would have to say – leave the window open, a welcome sign in big neon lights, announce come and help yourselves we’ll even change the laws to facilitate your thieving efforts, and we’ll give you money just to try.
I do agree to an extent with what you say, and no, I certainly don’t hold that immigrants are blameless – but they did not create the situation in which we now find ourselves.
Immigrants get the blame for taking advantage, and God do they take advantage, but they didnt make the situation which they’re taking advantage of.
We may as well blame the girl behind the counter of the local bank, or the dogsbody debt collection agency worker, for the bankers fleecing us globally.
They may be a part of that, they make some gains themselves, but they didn’t make it.
Immigrants are a problem,but if we’d kept our borders closed and not thrown up a ‘welcome’ sign worldwide via moronic laws etc then they’d not be the problem they are.
‘m’ says:
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“I know the rules of behaviour are much stricter than they used to be on public transport but I am sure lots of kids and teenagers regularly get away with breaking the rules”,
… and other people of course, who shall remain nameless.
The problem is Yorkie we don’t have that long before we become yet another failed Third World state. The British HAVE TO start waking-up NOW.
….. and exactly what do you propose to wake up the British? Please give your thoughts on how to do it, because you just might have a good idea that no one else has thought of.
It would take 50 years, even if we could start making progress today. It may well take longer ….. scary thought isn’t it!
SW Nationalist.
Thank you for the extension to my burglar analogy. Of course I am in total agreement with your augmentation. Subconsciously, I suppose, I was trying to convey that analogies are not always the best vehicle to articulate a point.
I don’t disagree that immigrants take advantage. For fear of generalising, I would think most of the good people that take the trouble to post on this site would agree on that point.
Most of us in our lives are given some opportunity to break the law or cheat the system, but that doesn’t mean to say that we take it. So my point is, if immigrants are given the opportunity to abuse our hospitality it doesn’t mean they have to. We know they do but it doesn’t give them the excuse.
Is it taking advantage when immigrants commit murder or groom our young girls. What do we mean by “Taking Advantage”. To what level do we take it.
We all know there is no simple solution to this multicultural issue, it is multi-dimensional problem. But whichever way you look at it successive Governments have had ample opportunity to address it and have failed to do so.
We are all conditioned by the environment we live in. I live in a area where whites are a minority so its highly likely that my present thought processes are a product of my environment. Perhaps this may explain why some people who live under these conditions become blinkered and or intransigent in their argument. Maybe there is scope here for an article.
Likewise, the young woman on the tram maybe a product of the environment she was raised in.
Finally, this is only my second posting on this forum or any forum for that matter. So I am still learning the ropes so to speak.
So please don’t take my post as an attack on your article, which incidentally, is well written and makes a valid contribution to the debate. So keep up the good work. At least you are doing something to further the cause.